Re: [tied] Morphology 19 update

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 17003
Date: 2002-12-04

>PIE *�-g^, from deictic *e- + emphatic *-g^ (*-g^h in Indo-Iranian).

Since I notice you still haven't addressed my objection via
English example to your basic objection against my penultimate
accent theory (no doubt to avoid exposing your error as is typical
of your character), I'll burn you on some other issues such as this
one until you finally crack and face the music.

For many obvious reasons, "I" is to be reconstructed as *�go:.
One of those obvious reasons, besides being fully attested as such,
is that it quite assuredly meant "I am here". The most important
element is the 1sg ending because without it we only have the
meaning "here", and then we can't explain why it eventually was
conjugated like a thematic verb. The obvious solution is that *eg-
WAS a verb meaning "to be here" and we have the support of a
parallel in Inuktitut, /uva-nga/ "I am here". Semantically
equating "here" with "I" is hardly as likely nor have you bothered
to do any in-depth research to find a similar development in any
real-world language like I have.

Further, the emphatic particle (not an ending, a particle!) is
vowel-final as attested in languages such as Greek and Sanskrit,
so this emphatic **-g^ of yours, together with **eg^ is a shameful

>The original pre-PIE form, *mu, has not survived anywhere,

We partly agree at least, although I reconstruct Mid IE *meu.

>PIE *m�ne dissimilated from *m�me (except in Sanskrit).

There was no disimilation, which is not even possible for
your **tuma anyway! The *-n- is found in Tyrrhenian (Etruscan /mi/
versus /mini/) and even in Uralic (Finnish /min�/ and /minun/).
It was used in singular pronominal paradigms for cases other than
the nominative. (Mid IE nom *meu, acc *m�nem, gen *men�se)

>PIE *wey (*mWey) and *mesW (*m(W)esW) from oblique *mu-�t(i)
> > *mW�y and nominative *mu-�t(u) > *mW�sW, respectively.

Uh, not even close. Actually, *ns "us" is derived from Mid IE
*mes, which is merely the 1ps + plural ending. The variant *nos
is a strengthened form of *ns which obtained *n in the first
place via assimilation of earlier zero-grade *ms. The nominative
form however is ancient and reconstructable in Mid IE as *wei.
It has nothing, in fact, to do with MIE *meu "I" and more to
do with the 1ps perfect ending, if anything.

- gLeN

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