Re: [tied] Eagle and salt

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 16903
Date: 2002-11-28

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:25:02 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

>If the Slavic 'eagle' word is to be analysed as an *-ln- stem, it should perhaps be derived from *h2arl.n-o- > *arilna- > *orIlU; then at least the right vocalism falls out naturally, and the loss of *n has to be explained somehow in either case.

Or *h2orl.n-o-, of course.

>I also wonder if the 'salt' word could not belong here; cf. Gk. halios (like *ha:welios) < *sallijos < *s(h2)alnijos (?), Slavic *solnU 'tasting of salt'. Perhaps neuter *saln > *sald (rather than **salr., because of liquid dissimilation), whose generalisation might explain why there's no **sann- in Germanic.
>Jus' speculatin'. Take it with a grain of sal.

Or a grain of sand? In any case, Pokorny posits a Gen. sal-n-és,
which he unfortunately fails to substantiate. The various derivations
(sali-, salu-, salm-os) point to a Caland formation, and thus, in my
view, to **s(h2)al-n{a|i|u}- (> plain *sal(r), palatalized *sali-,
labialized *salu-/salm-). The -d of Germanic salt also appears in
Armenian aLt (besides aL (i-stem)), and in Balto-Slavic *saldus (Lith.
saldùs), *saldu-ko- (OCS sladUkU) "sweet". I would be inclined to see
it as a different formation. Or perhaps the noun was *sh2áld (N.
*sh2álds, G. *sh2l.dés) "salt", with a Caland adjective **sh2ald-n- >
*sh2aln- "salty" (with by-forms *sh2aly-, sh2alw-, sh2alm-).

Miguel Carrasquer Vidal