Re: [tied] greek world

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 16871
Date: 2002-11-24

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] greek world
> The nom.sg. endings *-s, *-os, *-is, *-us are of PIE origin,
and they were inherited by the individual branches. However,
they were eventually lost in most of them, sometimes in
preliterate times, sometimes more recently. For example, PIE
*-os > pre-Gmc. *-as > Proto-Gmc. *-az > Goth. -s, ON -r, OE &
OHG zero. The final <-s> survives in Baltic (PIE *-os >
Lith. -as, Latv. -s). Ancient Greek and Classical Latin
retained the original endings rather faithfully (but *-os >
Class.Lat. -us) and, naturally enough, substituted them in
foreign words for whatever the original nom.sg. ending was,
e.g. Germanic *-az (or any of its reflexes) appeared as <-os>
in Greek and <-us> in Latin. Also Gk. -os --> Lat. -us and
vice versa.
>

[Moeller]
I have the feeling in rom. lang. the PIE "-os" is still alive
and has today the form "-o$" and maybe "u$".I do not see this
suffix in words with an diminutival formation , but just in
words which present this form with "-o$" or "u$" indeed for
nom. sg. .I will give some examples here:
mo$ (old man), coco$ ( cock), cocolo$(something made like a
ball, spheric )
tzaru$ (pale), corcodu$(yellow plum)
for feminine there is "o$ã" or "u$ã" nad if I am not too
abusing , even the diftongated forms like "oa$ã"
corcodu$ã,brându$ã(colchium autumnale), gogoa$ã( cocon),
cocoa$a

I mention once again these are not words which have
diminutival forms and beside of the word "coco$" which is
supposed to come from slavic "kokoSi"=hen i limited myself in
giving examples from romanian substrate , with words of
unknown etymology.