--- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
> To: cybalist@...
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:31 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: The "n" in ALAN
>
>
> TP:
> >> And some say both Germanic *al- "all" and Latin <al-ter>, <al-
ius> "other" is derived from *arya-. Now how does one reconcile that?
>
> PG:
> > Ask those who say so. I have never said anything of the kind.
>
> TP:
> I never accused of anything of that kind, there are other
authorities in IE linguistics.
>
PG:
> I don't think anyone who actually derives <alius> et al. from *arya-
deserves to be called an authority. But then I've never met a
linguist who does. Who namely does "some" stand for, eh?
TP:
Since I forgot where I read it, the only one who says that is myself.
Me, an authority on linguistics! Who'd've thunk it?
>
> TP:
> > I now know you see a lot of strange coincidences, that's why I
thought you might be interested in one for the collection?
>
PG:
> Thanks. For those of the Cybalisters who are not on the
Austronesian group, let me present here another such pair: Malayo-
Polynesian *peDaHu/*paDaHu 'ship for long-distance navigation'
(Waruno Mahdi's reconstruction) > Bali. p&rahu, Sund. & Jav. parahu,
Tag. paráw, etc. and Russian paroxod [p&raxót]. And while we're at
it, it's also hard to believe that Eng. dream and Latin dormio: are
unrelated, but that's a fact. The collection's growing ;-)
TP:
I think you want to say: not derivable from the same root using known
derivation rules. That's a fact. Isn't BTW <dream> one of the
Germanic 30%-words?
Also, you wouldn't believe it, but someone tried to pull the same
stunt in the Austronesian group, but he gave away the show by
revealing the trick: it's actually Russian <par> (m.) "steam" and
<xod> "walk" as in Polish <samochod>, a contraption which will self-
walk you to the supermarket. I don't think it's nice to pretend you
can't divide a root you present as indivisible.
> Piotr
Torsten