[tied] Re: the surname LOPES/LOPEZ : name LOPO/LOPE : Latin, Celtic

From: tgpedersen
Message: 16433
Date: 2002-10-19

--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:12:38 -0000, "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> >'Lope' is not the only Spanish name ending in '-e' when one would
> >expect '-o'. 'Felipe' (ultimately from Greek Philippos) is
> >example. Is it possible that the '-e' is actually a survival of
> >vocative ending?
> Good idea. Alas, what little information I have on old Castilian
> (mainly an article "La apócope de la vocal en castellano antiguo",
by Rafael
> Lapesa, 1951) tells a different story. It is well known that in
Old Castilian
> documents final -e was apocopated in far more cases than in modern
Spanish (e.g.
> prinçep, noch, cort, present, romanz). In some cases even -o was
> especially in proper names, and especially in the combination name
+ patronymic.
> A form like Hernán (< Fernando) is a good example that has
survived. This also
> solves the mistery of the /p/ in Lope. The name was Lobo,
apocopated to Lob
> (e.g. an attested form Lob Diez). In final position, the
distinction between -b
> and -p was neutralized, and we have many attested cases of Lop in
> documents. When -e was restored (modern: príncipe, noche, corte,
> romance), it was also restored on apocopated forms like Lop or
Felip, giving
> Lope and Felipe.
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...

Might this have been a Castillian attempt to (re)assert the
independence of their language from Catalan?