**From:** Sergejus Tarasovas

**Message:** 16010

**Date:** 2002-10-07

--- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>

wrote:

The only imaginable reason for the substitution k -> s in <sobaka>

(if it derives from <köbäk> with front vowels) would be that given by

Trubachev (the second palatalisation *k > *c plus an ad hoc

simplification of *c > s), which has nothing to do with the satem

change.

idea is: "Ir. proisxoz^denije slova _sobaka_ maloverojatno, skoreje

vsego my imeem zdes' zaimstvovanije iz t'urk. köbäk "sobaka"; sm.

podrobno _Trubachev, Slav. nazvanija dom. z^ivotnyx, M., 1960, str.

29 i sl., gde i ostal'naja liter.". I cannot by conjecture what

explanation was proposed by T. himself.

Sergei

wrote:

The only imaginable reason for the substitution k -> s in <sobaka>

(if it derives from <köbäk> with front vowels) would be that given by

Trubachev (the second palatalisation *k > *c plus an ad hoc

simplification of *c > s), which has nothing to do with the satem

change.

>Actually, it was given by myself :))), since all I have on Trubachev

idea is: "Ir. proisxoz^denije slova _sobaka_ maloverojatno, skoreje

vsego my imeem zdes' zaimstvovanije iz t'urk. köbäk "sobaka"; sm.

podrobno _Trubachev, Slav. nazvanija dom. z^ivotnyx, M., 1960, str.

29 i sl., gde i ostal'naja liter.". I cannot by conjecture what

explanation was proposed by T. himself.

Sergei