From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 15368
Date: 2002-09-10
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From: "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:23 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: -ishte, -eshte
alexmoeller@... wrote:
>> You have. Even in Bucharest some uneducated people prefer
to
>> use the form "dã$kide".
>
> [Moeller] daschide = YES da$chide= NO. I am afraid some
people
> from George's subdialect were the people you heard speaking
> with "sh". In Bucharest are a lot of people from every part
of
> the country, and a lot from other countries too:-)
Well, you may keep telling that to yourself. After all I
spent
more than 25 years in Bucharest where I was born, so there
doesn't
make much sense to contradict me on this issue, I know
perfectly
well what I'm talking about. The vocalism is specific to
Muntenia,
with [e] > [&].
[Moeller] it remains just for the people who visit romania and
bucharest to keep their ears open for hearing if dã$chide or
dãschide.I said: dãschide=YES dã$schide=NO.there is ã but no
sh. They will hear for themself
>> [Moeller] I dont put any dacian words here. I just observe
the
>> inconcordances . And the word grevis doesnt exist in latin.
>
> Try to convince Catalans that "greu" (same spelling &
meaning)
> doesn't come from vernacular Latin *grevis.
>
> [Moeller] I dont try to convinge no one but myself.
Then take a look in the dictionary. Catalans accept that
their
word (as well as Occitan "greu" or Venetic "grève"), does come
from a vernacular Latin "*grevis". I fail to see any valid
reason
why you couldn't accept the same for Romanian "greu".
[Moeller] did you say Occitan?Aw!That remember me about a guy
P.L. Tonciulescu and a study of him about Occitans and
Romanians, Remember?
Can it be the reason why?
>
> [Moeller] Yeap. I told once, i say once again
> "Meyer-Lübcke-demonstration"
Before spreading nonsensical stuff here around, you should
have
some serious reading on Romance languages.
[Moeller] Here on this list are not children who do not know a
clue about romanic languages. That should be a hint. Not here,
not on this list.