From: george knysh
Message: 15313
Date: 2002-09-09
> > > >*****GK: Goodbye Mr. Pedersen. I have no further time
> > >
> > > What is it about this theory of a southeastern
> > > component in
> > > demographics and mythology in North West Europe
> that
> > > makes it
> > > anathema to so many? I fail to get it.
> Personally
> > > I've earned a
> > > specific injunction on this list against
> pursueing
> > > this idea plus
> > > several vicious personal attacks against which
> no
> > > one intervened. Why
> > > must this area of Europe be pristine and free of
> > > outside influences
> > > since the Bronze age?
> >
> > *****GK: Please don't be disingenuous Torsten. I
> think
> > very few people would object all that strongly if
> at
> > all (I know I certainly wouldn't) to your
> statement as
> > put above. "The devil is in the details". For
> > instance, I find Pritsak's theory that the younger
> > futhark had to be the product of an individual or
> > individuals familiar with the Turkic runic system
> > which emerged in the 6th century quite intriguing
> and
> > worthy of study. As is his view that Snorri
> created
> > the whole "Odin" story to explain earlier contacts
> > along the Volga between Baltic and Caspian.No one
> can
> > deny the reality of Scandinavian connections with
> > southeastern Europe, going back very far in time
> > indeed (at least the 4th millennium BC according
> to
> > one variant of the spread of IE in Europe), and
> > continuing in various forms to our day. But when
> you
> > attempt to take the Snorri tale of Odin from
> Asgard
> > literally and place it in a firm 1rst c. BC
> setting
> > (somewhat like Heyerdahl) that's a different
> kettle of
> > fish. There is no evidence whatsoever for this,
> > historical, linguistic,, archaeological etc etc
> etc..
> > And your attempts to insist on desperately
> twisting
> > all available facts to at least provide the veneer
> of
> > a semblance of something plausible in the tale as
> > literally put is what eventually earned you what
> you
> > complain about.******
>
> I see nothing here but a smear against me and a
> misrepresentation of
> the facts. I have tried to provide facts to show
> there is such a
> connection. Your diatribe can't change that. I
> quoted Albrectsen at
> length on Roman Iron Age finds on Fyn, a subject you
> were apparently
> unfamiliar with. Explain the finds of Isis cult
> paraphernalia there
> if you can. And, please, do not supply answers of
> the follwing type:
>
> 1) Character assassination of your opponent
>
> 2) Patronizing generalities of the type "there is no
> evidence
> anywhere to suggest". Stick to the issue at hand.
>
> Torsten
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