Re: [tied] Re: zau

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: zau


On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:04:14 +0200, alexmoeller@...
wrote:

>[Moeller] zãu ? "zice-tzi zãu cu limba scoasa".. That was a
>joke betwen children , remember?And you speak about
>labialisation here? na na, such "jokes" would make you to
>learn how difficult is to say "z" with the tongue between
your
>tooth:-)))))

Tongue = lingua (limbã), tooth = dent- (dinte). Labial refers
to the lips
(buze).

S(h)ibilants are often accompanied by lip rounding (e.g. "sh"
in English and
"ch" in French).

[Moeller] this is what i wanted to show. Is difficult to say
"z" in romanian with labials. You will get this "th" or "dz"
but they are far away from "z".
We speak about the "z" which is to find in barZa, brânZa,
vieZure, Zgribuli, Zapada, Zâmbet, ViZuina, Zer and so one.
This one is a clear, strong, very pronounced "z" and not dz,
th, ts.
These are never to substitute in romanian language you canot
say instead of Sharpe zarpe or dzarpe or tsarpe.