Re: [tied] Got milk?

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 14479
Date: 2002-08-23

I think there's also a word klagos for milk in Greek, is it correct?
dl->gl- in Geek can be seen in glykys "sweet" < *dluku- < *dLku-, cf. Latin dulcis
So  dl@... / *d@...@kt- ?
A t-ending like *melit- "honey" and alut "mead" ?
For examples of alternation *-L(R)- / *-@...(R)-, we have:
Latin gravis / Greek barys / Sanskrit guru  "heavy"  *gWru- / gW@...
Latin glis / Greek gale / Sanskrit giri "dormouse, rat, mouse, squirrel, marten, weasel, small fur animal" *gli- / g@...
Greek Boreas / Sanskrit giri  "mountain"  *gWri- / gW@...
----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Got milk?

Sounds like someone choking on milk :)
The evidence being as limited as it is, a number of diferent reconstructions are possible in the sense that they cannot be excluded. Simplicity should be preferred at this stage. Greek g(a)lakt- and Latin lact- (plus, it seems, Bangani lOktO, if a genuine substrate word, and hypothetically [Proto-]Chinese *lak if an IE loan) are derivable from *glakt (with the Lindeman variant *gl.lakt), *glaktos (or *glktos levelled out), with the *a perhaps due to sporadic colouring by (uvular?) *k (the initial might equally well be *g^ -- only a Satem cognate could clarify things).
Well, life would be easier without the Greek forms, since we are forced to assume the irregular simplification of *gl- to /l-/ in Latin (and in the Bangani substrate), but what else can we do? Abandon the connection? Or start speculating. Alternative number one: *dlakt- with *dl- > *l except in Greek, where *dl- is dissimilated to *gl- > gl- ~ gal-. Here at least the simplifiction makes sense, as in the 'long' word, and even if other examples of *dl- > Gk. gl- can't be found, the dissimilation also makes sense even as a sporadic change.
Any thoughts?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Milk and a Gaulish Love Poem

Could be a non-IE substratum?
*dglakt > galakt
*dglakt > *gdlakt > lakt

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