From: Miguel Carrasquer
>--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:The -i is absent because in Old French _all_ final vowels had been dropped
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:08:21 -0000, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
>> >A nice chance to push my shibboleth theory
>> >1) General confusion between nom. and acc. pl. in provincial
>> >2) East Rome (incl. Italy) opts for generalizing the nom: -i, -e
>> >3) West Rome therefore opts for generalizing the acc. -s
>> But there is no "West Rome" here. French, Provençal and Rhaetic
>> Northern Italian dialects) retained both the nom.pl. (OFr. mur) and
>> (OFr. murs).
>True, I disregarded the Old French
> Ø -s
>pattern. But in my eyes see here only the absence of -i.
>Do you have any direct evidence for examples of a development -h > -/s/ > /y/ is seen in Occitan and Catalan (vassaletu "little vassal" > vaslet >
>ç ? It sounds rather Procrustean to me.