Re: [tied] Re: obscure languages - Kaskian, Hattic,

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 14170
Date: 2002-07-29

>Glen, cultivated grapes appear first with the Secondary >Products
>Revolution at Tell Halaf 5,600 BCE. This appears
>to have been the first, but the word for grapa may have
>existed before that.

But I don't think Kartvelian's wine word is native unless
you can tell me what it is derived from...

The reason why I think it's Tyrrhenian is that the only
worth-while etymology I've heard for "wine" is an
Indo-European one (ie: *woi-no- "pressed, squeezed")
but since I can't fathom IE as being the source for "wine",
I take the next best option and hypothesize Tyrrhenian
*wina (Etruscan /vinac/) which perhaps could be broken
down in the same way: **wi- "to squeeze, press"(?) + *-na.

Is there anyone on this list with a better etymology
for this word?

- gLeN

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