italo-celto-thraco groups

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 13979
Date: 2002-07-10

[Moeller] I should like to give your following passage to read. The translation belongs to me.
 
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The unity of the european lingvistic at the end of the mil. II BC
Arbois de Jubainville (1894) taking as source Eusebius Pamphilius, shows that at 1100 bc the osco-umbrians migrated from south of Germany ( today map of the world)in the central Italy.At that time it is supposed that the proto-thracian-italo-celtic tribes were still not so differentiated, where the differences among their languages have had more a dialectal character.Aprox. at the same time, the dorian tribes migrated in greek theritory from somewhere from vicinity of Danube (this "somewhere" is interesting -my comment here).All these peoples who migrated in the west and south directions kept something from thier primary dialects which later became different languages, some common phonological particularties very appropiate to be considered as simple coincidences.These particularities tell us these people lived together in a time.Even Marcus Antoninus Gnipho said that the umbrians are an old branche of the gallians (M.A.Gnipho lived in first century bc).It is very probably that MA Gnipho knew the language of the galls and so he could see how far or not the both languages are and he could observe some paralels between galic and umbrian, paralels which were not to find with the latin language even if latin and umbrian are considerate to belong to the same familiy. It is tought very posible that this author have had some informations regarding the origin of the umbrians.
Fact is, the common features of the gallic and umbrian becomes very clear for everyone who becomes familiar with these two languages ( gallic and umbrian).
On the other hand an another ancient writter Pytheas from Massilia made a very brave journey an North See in the 4 century bc and he said that west from Rhin the population is called "celtic" but est of Rhin this population is called "schytian".Due the fact the greeks considered the thracians ( better said the north branch of them , the dacians) to be the same with the schythians, we get an another image of old europe ..etc. etc etc..
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[Moeller] I should like to see your opinion if indeed we can say that at that time (1100 BC)is resonable to think the celto-italic-thracian groups spoked a language which was not so differentiated, in fact that at 1100 BC the italo-celto-thraco people could be comprehensible among each other.
 
best regards
 
a. moeller