Re: [tied] Re: "Irmin" and Hermes

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 13729
Date: 2002-05-16

I wouldn't be surprised. Some linguists attribute the origin of English /h/-dropping to the French-English contact situation back in Middle English times (Jim Milroy, 1983, "On the sociolinguistic history of /h/-dropping in English"; Milroy finds abundant evidence of /h/ becoming unstable in English as early as AD 1200). About the sixteenth century (h) began to function as a prominent sociolinguistic variable, which led to its diffusion back into those "cultivated" accents that had lost it (and its hypercorrect introduction in words of French origin), but /h/-dropping was not strongly stigmatised until the 18th century.
 
Note that despite having absorbed a Frankish component French eventually dropped not only the volatile "<h> muet" of Latin origin (lost already in Proto-Romance) but also the secondarily acquired Germanic "<h> aspiré".
 
Piotr
 
 
 
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Subject: [tied] Re: "Irmin" and Hermes

I vaguely recall having seen in an exposition of Dutch dialects that some very southern (ie. in France) moribund dialects of Flemish also dropped /h/?