Re: [tied] Re: IRMIN

Now let's be serious. Spellings like <hermunduri>, <hermondoroi> point to Germanic *ermVn(a)-duro:z, the latter element, *dura-, certainly with <d> and a short vowel, whatever it means.

BTW, *ermVn- is not just a vague compound element whose meaning is deduced from the context. It occurs in Old English as an unbound, independently inflected adjective, in phrases like <ofer/geond yrmenne grund> (<yrmen> is a spelling variant of <eormen> and -ne is the acc.sg. ending), and <eormen-> is on several occasions glossed in Latin, always as "immensus" or "permagnus".

Piotr

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From: tgpedersen

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Subject: [tied] Re: IRMIN

>Torsten: > > 60BCE They set up camp in Thuringia as *erman-e-tu:r > <Hermundur- > (in my best Tauric, assuming this was an Iranic language) "Tu:r followers", which name, translated into Germanic, becomes <Tu:r-ing->. --- In cybalist@......, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@......> wrote: > And this *-tu:r- part appears as <-duri> (short <u>), <-doroi> in ancient sources. Some kind of folk etymology, I presume. > > Piotr You got me intrigued there. Folk etymology from what to what? Torsten