--- In cybalist@..., "niffabs" <niffabs@...> wrote:> The
term "satemised" would seem to imply that the satem group split
> from the centum group.> I would be interested to know what theories
there are presently as to > how the centum/satem split might have
occured, as there seems to be > no obvious connection ? I have seen
the suggestion elsewhere that the > PIE word might have started with
ksh as in kshatriya - the centum > group then dropping the sh, and
the satem group dropping the k.> There is a case of the sh being
dropped where many people in present > day Punjab would say Khatti
rather than Kshatriya.> Any thoughts on this would be interesting.
>
While discussing Agriculture and IE, and since metal was a key
ingredient in providing tools for organized farming, it is also
relevant to relate to the furnace technologies for smelting ores and
search for tin in the regions mentioned to discuss IE diffusion in
Anatolia or northern Iran.
A comparable development relates to the words for furnace or forge.
Today, the word used is bhat.i as in Bhat.in.d.a or Bhat.ner (two
sites in Punjab with very ancient forts); Bhat.in.d.a has an
archaeological site of the Sarasvati Sindhu Civilization (ca. 250
hectares) which is 2.5 times larger than either Harappa or
Mohenjodaro. The fames Bhat.i-s were the rulers of the region on the
banks of River Sarasvati defending against intruders.
bat.hi smith's forge or a furnace for iron ore.
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/munda/furnace1.pdf
bhra_s.t.ra n. fried or cooked in a frying-pan Pa_n.ini. 4-2.
bhras.t.ra n. a frying-pan , gridiron MaitrS. (Skt.)
I do not know if this is a hyper-Sanskritism is a combination
with 'blast' in a 'blast furnace'. *bhle_- 'to blow'
Are there concordant etyma in PIE or IE for denoting furnaces or
forges of smiths or smelters?