--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> From: tgpedersen
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> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:18 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: I, Hercules [was: A "Germanic" query] IRMIN
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> >> [Piotr] As the name "Alani" proves, the development of *arya- in
Alanic was different from that in Persian. Besides, the initial vowel
is short in Germanic; it can't represent *e: < *ai (*airiia-).
> > [Torsten] Ah, now I get it. In Alanian <aryaman> would be
<alaman>?
>
> Not quite. The development of NE Iranian vowels is very sensitive
to the original vowel length and syllable structure: *aryaman- >
*æliman-, more or less.
>
> Piotr
But in that case Alanian would have *ala- from *arya- and *æliman-
from *aryaman. That does not make sense.
I sent a posting about this yesterday, but it seems to have been lost.
and cf.
Lucien Musset: The Germanic Invasions
(translated from: Les Invasions: Les Vagues Germaniques)
p. 147, of the Lombards (Langobards)
"
...
There are signs suggesting the existence of colonies of <arimanni>
(freemen liable for military service) at strategic points, for
example at Friuli and at the entrances to Alpine passes.
...
"
In other words, there exists a Langobardic gloss <ariman-> "freeman".
The Langobards came from the Baltic coast. Note the /r/ reflex of
<aryaman> here, as in (H)ermi(n)ones, Hermun-dur-i, or the king of
the latter, Hermanaric, as opposed to the /l/ of Alan and Alaman. So
the invaders of Thuringia were not quite Alans.
Torsten