[tied] Re: Post-Gothic "Getic" fantasies: the source(s)

From: tgpedersen
Message: 13216
Date: 2002-04-12

--- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > That is a workable scenario; I'll grant you that.
> > But as Steve Long
> > pointed out: Where are the protests from the other
> > chroniclers?
>
> *****GK: Well the institute of the "proterviens" with
> its attendant "correctorium fratris thomae" attitudes
> did not become established in the West until the rise
> of the universities. And even then it was never a
> totally comprehensive practice. If we were to accept
> as established everything written by old authors which
> was not protested by a contemporary, we would be in a
> pretty pickle indeed. I might guess that since by the
> end of the 4th c. there were no Getae or Daci left
> that mattered, no one really cared about the
> (mis)identification, just as no one cared about
> continuing references to "Scythians", "Budini" or
> "Gelones" etc..*****
> >
I think it is an understatement to say that Goths and other Germanic-
speaking tribes were not concerned with their roots.

> > And what did you think of the Bronze Age shields and
> > spears, BTW?
> > Where would you place them?
>
> *****GK: Apparently some of them have already been
> placed. Is there a reason not to accept this? I am not
> a professional archaeologist. BTW have you any
> arrowheads ?******
>
I am afraid there are no arrowheads. Actually they have been placed.
I just thought it would be interesting to hear your opinion, given
that you were so certain in denying any Bronze Age connection between
the shores of the Black Sea and the Baltic. So?

Torsten