From: kalyan97
Message: 13178
Date: 2002-04-10
--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
Why India?
Because of the 'I' in 'PIE' and of the 'Indo-' in 'Cybalist.Indo-
European Forum'.
The theme has meandered on many threads including: 'Sanskrit and
e,a,o', 'Misra, Bryant and Indigenous-Nationalist Conflation' themes,
not to talk of the horse-speak.
Let me add one more reason to the question synthesised by Piotr. The
finds of the Gulf of Khambat Cultural Complex (GKCC) which takes the
PIE speakers of the Bhr.gu, Cyavana, Us'anas type, back to ca. 10,000
Before Present. More links at
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/khambat/bhrgu01.htm
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/khambat/khambat01.htm#khambat 'Why
is Khambat so-called?'
The 'samudra' arguments of Piotr can be answered by a reference to
the maps close to the 'sindhu sa_gara' presented on these pages: many
waters find their confluence into this ocean. Says Piotr: 'What we
really have to explain is how the IE languages managed to spread all
over Europe and much of Central Asia, the Middle East, Anatolia and
(without special emphasis) the Indian subcontinent.'
Let us assume that the 'I' in the 'PIE' speakers were ocean-going
people from GKCC through the Persian Gulf, the Tigris-Euphrates
valleys and up the Wahinda-Mihran-Nara-Hakra-Ghaggar-S'utudri_-
Dr.s.advati-A_paya-Manus.a bodies of waters, then the startling
statement made by Michael Donne provides the key linguistic argument:
that the Masica's language X is indeed Vedic. Yes, Vedic as might
have been spoken by the speakers of the Bharuch, Bharu Kaks.a
(Maha_bha_rata) or Bhr.gu-ks.etra (Bhr.gu zone, say, GKCC).
To explain what Piotr wants, how about a scenario like this? From
GKCC to Mesopotamia onto Anatolia; from Mesopotamia across land
through Elam; from GKCC to Mehrgarh up the River Sindhu and returning
to Dholavira in the Gulf of Kutch; from Dholavira to comingle with
Indo-Iranian speakers. Let the archaeologists look for the horse bone
traces across this meandering. Let linguists unravel Masica's
language X [I say, Munda-Vedic with some support from Kuiper] or
Misra Proto-Sanskrit cousin of Hock's PIE speakers.
Why India? Because she is there, because River Sarasvati flowed there
from ca. 10,000 BP to ca. 5,000 BP. It does not matter if Haraxvaiti
flowed into Helmand lake and happens to be a memory of the larger
Sarasvati farther east.