Re: [tied] Proto Romanian Cradle

Dear Piotr,

Do we have enough evidence to put Thracian or Dacian in a specific IE
family? If yes, what family.
As I understand, Thracian was not Greek, but was it close to Greek? Or,
for that matter, close to (proto) Latin?

Best regards,

Paul Alesu

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: altamix
> To: cybalist@...: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:34
> AMSubject: Re: [tied] Proto Romanian Cradle
> ... In this case, where from they got these stories? Certanly, the
> people must have a big phantasie, but without a bit of truth there is
> no story ... It's precisely this kind of logic ("people say so, so
> there must be something in it") that makes people believe in gossip
> and urban myths and spread such stuff: "It _really_ happened to one of
> my sister's friends ..." (which means that your sister mentioned that
> it had "really" happened to somebody who'd told it to a friend of
> hers). The visceral romantic appeal of folk tales makes them even more
> irresistible, but not necessarily more credible. > mmmm.. and what
> does speak against a common language in balkan until on the scene
> apears the slavs?I mean, not folk myths , but "reliable historical
> evidences" ? Nothing, so far i know."A little" is not the same thing
> as "nothing". There's quite a lot of onomastic material representing
> Illyrian, Getic and Thracian; we have some vernacular vocabulary
> surviving in glosses in ancient texts, and we have some Thracian
> inscriptions, which are obscure but at least prove that Thracian was
> not, for example, a form of Greek, which, after all, is also an
> ancient Balkan language. The material is scarce but sufficient to show
> that the languages in question were different from one another. We
> also know Greek and Albanian to represent different branches of IE.
> Ancient Macedonian was different from both (though evidently related
> to Greek), and Messapic (probably a form of Illyrian) was still
> different. The linguistic diversity of the ancient Balkans is
> undeniable.
> Piotr