Re: [tied] Narten presents, *mad- and such

What's that *mad- root you mention? Pokorny's *mad- 'moisten, drench', as in Lat. madeo: 'drip, overflow', mador 'moisture'?

Hittite <sak-> 'know' is one of those -hi-conjugation verbs that show alternation between a strong stem with the "scriptio plena" vowel <-a:-> (considered to be a reflex of *o), as in 3sg. <sa:kki>, and a weak stem with <-a-> (a reduced or quasi-zero grade), as in OHitt. 2pl. <sakteni>; there is also a variant of the weak grade with <-e->, as in OHitt. 2pl. imperative <sekten>. The cognacy of <sa:kki> to Lat. sa:gio:, saga:x, Gk. he:geomai, Celt. *sag- and Gmc. *so:k-j-an- is doubtful. If you ask my opinion, I'd prefer to connect it with Lat. scio: 'know'.

Piotr

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From: Glen Gordon

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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:56 PM

Subject: [tied] Narten presents, *mad- and such

Hey folks, I'm just curious about something. How would one conjugate *mad-. Does it have an o-grade form? Is it a Narten present? What the hell is it? Just having some thoughts that I'm testing out. I'd appreciate any input. Secondly, the American Heritage lists *sa:g- (< *saxg-) as the precursor to Latin /sagire/ and "seek". However, I remember mention of that Hittite Narten present (Was it /sakk-/?). What's the deal on that verb? Is there really a laryngeal there or is that blindly assumed? Plus, is the final consonant a *g (plain) or is it a *G (uvular)?