Re: [tied] Re: Misra, Bryant and Indigenous-Nationalist Conflation

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Subject: [tied] Re: Misra, Bryant and Indigenous-Nationalist Conflation

 

[Torsten:] Isn't it so that Sanskrit shares northern animals with the west, southern ones with the east?

Indo-Aryan lacks some of the animal names that the other groups (regardless of how closely they are related) share. What about the words for 'winter' (*g^Hjem-) and 'snow' (*sneigWH-), which seem to be the most widely and most securely attested "weather/climate" terms in IE?

[Peter:] >> (b) links with Uralic - although the situation is unclear, it is clear that
were links.

[Torsten:] > Assume a late wave of emigrants of proto-IA speakers from India. (BTW I've heard of Dravidian links with Uralic.)

 

The borrowings in Finno-Ugric come partly from Proto-Indo-Iranian, which means that they are more archaic than either Proto-Indo-Aryan or Proto-Iranian forms. A late wave of migrants won't do, and it seems necessary to assume direct contact between the speakers of PFU and PIIr. There may be still older (Proto-Satem [?] or dialectal PIE) loans in FU, sometimes also in Samoyedic, though these are not uncontested, and among the long-range proposals involving IE a connection with Uralic seems particularly promising.