Re: [tied] Harappan Horse myths

--- vishalsagarwal <vishalagarwal@...> wrote:

> It might be of your interest to know that
> archaeological data showing
> the late survival of Harappan features, and absence
> of intrusive
> elements (beyond Baluchistan highlands and NWFP in
> Pakistan) have
> forced several Indologists to revise their theories.
> For instance,
> Michael Witzel earlier postulated around 1700
> BC-1500 BC as the date
> of arrival of Aryans into India but has now been
> pushing the dates
> closer to 1000 BC. In his latest publication (web
> article), he now
> even advocates that Dravidian speakers also entered
> India along with
> Aryans, and both displaced Austric speakers.

*****GK: What are the origins of Harappan
civilization? Is it considered fully
"autochtonous"?*****
(earlier)== ****GK: What is that evidence, and how can
one be

> sure
> > that it covers precisely this time frame?*****
> VA: The time frame is fixed by comparing the human
> remains from
> various archaeological levels genetically, from the
> phenotype
> perspective and then comparing them with present day
> resident
> populations of those areas. A good resource on this
> is
>
> God-apes and fossil men : paleoanthropology of South
> Asia / Kenneth
> A. R. Kennedy.
> Published Ann Arbor : University of Michigan Press,
> c2000.
> Description xvii, 480 p. : ill., maps ; 26 cm.

***GK: Thank you for the reference. No DNA tests yet I
gather?*****

>
>
> >(earlier)=== *****GK: But there is the analogy of

the Scythian

> > Foundation Legend. Recorded by Herodotus in 450
> BC, it
> > gives the impression that the Scythians were
> > autochtons. Yet their leading component, the
> Paralata
> > (Pararya-ta) had arrived scarcely two centuries
> > earlier.*****
> VA: I will read the 'Histories' to understand what
> you are saying.

*****GK: See the beginning of Book IV basically. It'll
save time.*****

> (Vishal)Herodotus cannot be trusted completely BTW

for many

> of his
> descriptions are fantastic.

*****GK: Not this one, at least as a report of
Scythian belief.******

(VA)And there is a

> difference between a
> random legend and a massive corpus of literature
> which is perhaps 6
> times the length of the Bible.

*****GK: I'm sure the Scythians would have considered
this view of their foundation legend somewhat "racist"
(:=)))) (Just kidding!)******


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