Re: [tied] Rugi and RusI

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12655
Date: 2002-03-12

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The primitive Germanic form would have been *rug- (with appropriate suffixes) -- as simple as that. ON -rygir and OE *-ryge (dat.pl. -rygum with analogical umlaut) are original collective formations (*rug-ija-z) used in lieu of the nom.pl. and also as territorial names ('the country of the Rugians'). The protoform of OE holm and ON hólmr is *xulma-z, so the hypothetical back-projection of the Hulmerugi on the PGmc. plane would be *xulma-rugija-.
 
Piotr
 
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From: Sergejus Tarasovas
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: [tied] Rugi and RusI

If they [the Rugians] were of NWGermanic.Scandinavian stock, what the exact Old Norse form of the ethnonym could look like (there's _Hagena weold Holmrygum_ in Widsith 21, and, reportedly, _Holmrygir_ in Scandinavian sources; Jordanes mentions _Hulmerugi_)? If of East Germanic (as one can suppose for Jordanes' _Hulmerugi_), what a reconstructed form could look like?