i should like to point out some repers for understanding my way of thinking.
We have 2 presumtions. the dacians were wipped out or the dacians are still
today under the name "rumanias".
Le us take the first one:
the Dacians were wipped out. What does speakabout?
. the fact we know nothing ( almost) about them from the time of so called
"big Aurelliean withdrawall" until the time
where they appears in the title of attila ,where this one, attile
considered himself amongs other tile as "duce of dacians " too.
after this the term Dacian completly die.
So far so good. That means that after the hunic invasion, the dacians died
out. How? There are several posibilities.
They left the teritories where they lived and they emigrated somewhere, fact
which cannot be proved.
The were decimated by some nomads.
They were assimilated by the very clear, everywhere definitely literary
construct "local population".
If i accept these things i have to take any dictionary for a clear
explanation of the verb " to assimilate"
Ok, i do it and i learn, i have to have a bigger folk , at least in
proportion of 4:1 for beeing able to assimilate an another folk.
Please, take a look and you will see how many groups are living in so called
"national states" and they do not belong to the majority of that state .
That means, they could not be ( until today ) become assimilate. Why? I am
not an ethnologist to know , and it seems for every group is a specific
problem where it can, should be analysed for the respectively group.
Ok. Who are the people who are most likely to accept this these?
Well, Roesler & Co. and of course most part of the Hungarina historicians .
I guess is not so right to hear the hungarians historicians because they
cannot be neutral.The same is for the romanian histrocians.
Both of them cannot be so perfectly able to make a neutral analyse becouse
of the political implication from both sides.
We take the fact they were decimated by some nomads. In this case, if they
did not become decimated by huns, there are really no nomads people who
could be able to decimated them.
About goths is not the case to speka, because they were there before the
huns and we know from many sources, the dacians lived in peace with the
goths.
After the goths are the huns. They did not killed nowehre te local
population, .They kille dthe aristrochracy and they tried to take the
control over the goods producted in these lands. It seems somehow, Panonia
was a predestinated part of europe for beeing the "temporary capital" of
several nomadic people until the arrival of the last one in IX centuries,
the magyars.
Good.
After huns, are coming the gepidians.
They were in a very small part of Dacia, and really for a short time.So far
i remember, they controlled the west, south-west of Bant, a part of
Hungarian Plains . The gepids hve no chanse to make some changes there.
First,they were too weak and small ( but sure, more stronger as the
unorgaisately "local population",and they dont have the time to do
something. A new cloud on the migrations sky appear. The first avars. They
will wipe out the gepidians and they will rule that teritory.
We know about avars, more as over gepidians. We know avars ( like all
another migrators) never practiced agriculture or some stuff like this. The
avars have bread just big animals and they took the rest too from "local
population".There are too several sources with the description of the
habbits of avars in the occupied ( controled) teritory.We know , the avars
fought bitterly against Est Roman empire, or for this East roman empire.
They were finnaly crushed by Franks and Bulgars ( proto-bulgars. Not
actually the nation constructed on the tharcian basis, which become
assimilate by the numerous slavs who crossed Daica and settled in Moesia,
over whom the ruling class become the turkish tribe - or like turkish tribe-
of bulgars.).
Is the time that pecengs are coming to show us their faces.. For the dacian
teritory is not of a big importance. The peceng are more in south-east of
the country , and they are too for shortly time here. They are crushed by
cummans.
I stop here. Not because i dont like cummans.
But becouse something happens.
In the time of pechengs, cummans, it haappens that two new folks appears in
europa. We tolk about magyars and about valahians( vlahians, vlasi, olahi,
blahi and so on.. )
If we the frist one the things are clear- they are nomadic people and they
come from somewhere- ) with the valhian people is not the same.
It seems they literary POP UP from nowhere.and not just 2-3 individuums..
mcuh .they are really much
and they are wide spread..
From Moesia, Dalmatia, Dacia, north-West of Black See,Panonia and even in
Ukraina.
That is strange. Where did these people come from? More likely they
emigrated. Where from.. Well, after the way they speak , from somewhere from
within Roman Empire.. So.. it should be an explanation.. Can we take it?
the hungarians, sure. The rumaninas, i guess, no. But the rest?
I guess too, no.
I s not possbile a such big emigrations from within roman empire in the 8-9
centueirs without any remarks from nowhere ( we have no source about these
emigration.) More .. it should be the strangest emigration of all times in
europa. All people emigratesd from north. , north west, north east to the
south..
Direction ? More probably all the same point. Roman empire:).
but in this case? Do we have to handle with hadicapated people? I mean,
supposing they were in the roman empire, they have been more or less
proteged by legions. Even if less as more, but for sure, more as outside of
roman empire.Did they really been so "crazy" to leave a imperium where even
the goth asked for asylum for a terra incognita like Dacia? I doubt.. I
really doubt .
We take the last one the. The Dacian became assimilated. How we see,we need
a proportion of 4:1 for assimilating an another group. Actualy it seems that
happens.But who is this big group they assimilated the dacians?
huns, avars,gepidians, pecengs all of these, definitely not. Who then?
The slavs!Right. They were strong neough, they were very numerous and they
could do it. But wait,we know romanian language is not a slavic one. That
means?
That means the slavic could not assimilated the dacians but got from them a
latin language.. hmmm.
In this case? In this case we are looking in the dark and we have to accept
that the dacians did not disappier and they are today too, wohlauf ( meaning
living healthy) there where they allways have been.Do we agree?
Not, w dont agree. Why? Because why konw from Hungarians, as they came to
europa, in Trnasilvania were just some scatered slavs and valahs..
Aaaa... which are the sources who tell us about? Not too much are they.. It
seems none. But they are. Sure they are.We have a very reliable source.
Eutropius.
this one. Yeap. This is the one we need.He said "Aurellian evacuated Dacia."
That is that. Aurellian evacuated Dacia . Goths are coming. Goths are going.
Huns are coming. Huns are dieng. and so on. Andf now come the magyars and
they find a empty place to settle. But.. but why they need 300 years to
conquer Siebenbürgen ? Well, maybe because these scatered slavs and some
valahs who are there. Or just because they have had no itnerest to conquest.
They just "developed as population in time, and year after year, they are
penetrating inside of Transilvania.
Somehow it looks like a piece of theater and we begin to look carefully at .
So, we take Eutropius.Paralel to Eutropius, in the same time, we have
Zosimus, Olympiodorus, Slavinus and some more who tell us about a normal
withdrawall of the administration and last rests of the army from Dacia.
The rumanians,very proud of their latin origins, aclame and afirme " the big
Aurelian withdrawall." So , they can make ( maybe) acceptable a longer time
as it normally has been. if we take as point the year 270-274 as the year of
the withdrawall, so the rumanins could claims o period of almost 160 year of
time to become latinised. But we know trhat at 270 was really no big
withdrawall. In fact hte big Zurückziehen ( call back of the legions) was at
the time Hadrian becames emperror. This means 118 CE. or from that time the
only one Legion in Dacia was Gemina. for a long time. untill another one is
borught. Macedonica. Ans several cohortes. From thes cohortes in 230 they
are called in Panonia..
Well, it ssems from the number of the solgers who have been there, there are
definitely too small for beiing able to birth a new folk.
We should have the colonist. They did it for sure. People.. it is late, i am
not sure someone want to read really about..
I will continue if you want to know the rest later.. I have to make some
things here..
Best Regards
A. Moeller
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