Re: [tied] Thrace

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12558
Date: 2002-03-01

Now 18th-century European scholars supposed that the Hungarians were a Slavic or Turkic people. On _linguistic_ grounds (especially as regards the occurrence of characteristic onomastic elements), the Balkan Moesians were Getic, which means that the Danube was _not_ a natural boundary between the Thracians proper and the Getae. The Getae indeed lived on either side of it. If you want to argue for a "Thracian" cultural circle including the Getae and thus extending way north of the river, I don't mind. Calling the Finns Scandinavians, or Estonians a Baltic nation is OK in cultural and geographic terms, though not linguistically. As a linguist, I find the arguments in favour of separating Thracian and Getic compelling.
 
Both Thracian and Getic (+ Albanian) are Satem languages. There may have been a prehistoric continuum of related dialects west and north of the Black Sea, with Proto-Balto-Slavic at the one end (in the northern forest zone), Proto-Thracian at the other and Proto-Getic including what George would call "Thracoid" in the middle.
 
Piotr
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rex H. McTyeire
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [tied] Thrace


[Strabo:] Now the Greeks used to suppose that the Getae were Thracians; and the Getae lived on either side the Ister, as did also the Mysi, these also being Thracians and identical with the people who are now called Moesi; from these Mysi sprang also the Mysi who now live between the Lydians and the Phrygians and Trojans.