Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?

--- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > Aha!
> > >
> > > And allow me a dumb question: Does all this seven-ness have
> > anything
> > > to do with other traditional heptads besides divinities: days

of

> > the
> > > week, the seven metals, the planets?
> > >
> > > BTW, I came across this site:
> > >
> > > http://www.ruspublishing.com.au/index.html
> > >
> > > Some of his etymology does not impress me, but is there

something

> > to
> > > his idea of an Iranian connection to a European pre-Christian
> > belief
> > > system?
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> > Typical. If you want something done properly, do it yourself.
> Here's
> > what I found on seven-stuff:
> >
> > http://www.zen-forum.com/ForumE/showthread.php3?threadid=909
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=%2Bopusrex+%2Bcorax
> >
> > Considering the seven degrees in Mithraism and their ruling gods
> and
> > planets, it looks like one should modify the standard story of

the

> > Germanic borrowing of the names of the days of the week from the
> > Romans to include at least some Mithraism (Yes, I know, Roman
> > soldiers etc...). Anyway, the idea of a Roman 7-pantheon

comprising

> > also sun and moon always seemed a bit suspect to me.
> >
> > BTW, re hats,
> > the pointed felt hat is the mother of all hats
> > http://www.thehatsite.com/felt.html
> > and (phenotype and genotype, etc) all hats are pointed felt hats

at

> > an early stage in their creation.
> > (and, for the *very* curious
> > http://www.villagehatshop.com/hats_glossary_a.html
> > but look for "pileus")
> >
> > Now if Magi (etc) did wear pointed hats, and if they made them
> > themselves, and if felt was treated with mercury then as now (and
> > mercury was known at least to the Greeks) they would all have
> become
> > mad as hatters. Somewhere else on the net I read that the secret

of

> > the mercury-treating process for felt came to Europe from Turkey
> with
> > returning crusaders, so there might have been a continued

tradition.

> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Torsten
>
> A process known as "carroting" since it turned the felt red. Now

you

> have a red pointed felt hat, which you find in many contexts. Red

is

> otherwise a difficult color to obtain, this might be an indictaion
> that this process was responsible. In French the process is known
> as "secretage" since it was kept as a secret.
> I wonder if there might be a connection between Latin(?) "pileus"

and

> English "felt"?
>
> Torsten

(mumbling to himself):
The Western European open-style royal crown is actually a red cap
(the funny stuffing inside) with a tiara around it.
Now how did that arrive there? With Roman soldiers? Imitating Roman
kings and emperors? Nah.
Gregory of Tours, in his discussion of the origin of the Franks seems
to argue on the principle that what has a king is a people. Dukes and
other leaders don't count. Therefore he tries to trace back the
lineage of the Frankish kings back to Pannonia and beyond.

Torsten