Re: [tied] Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12302
Date: 2002-02-07

There are plenty of distinctly Iranian (as well as demonstrably pre-Iranian) loans in Finno-Ugric. For example, the Finnish word for 100 is <sata>, cf. Hungarian száz, both from Iranian *sata-. Iranian loanwords are not peculiar to Finnish but are shared with the other Finno-Ugric languages, which means that the contact zone was not located in Scandinavia (or Hungary, or NW Siberia) but close to the Finno-Ugric homeland, e.g. in and round the middle Volga basin. Raids upon foreign territory were a source of captives who became slaves (cf. the Indo-Iranian use of *da:sa-), The use of a foreign ethnonym as a common noun meaning 'slave' has ample precedent: Eng. slave itself derives via OFr. esclave from the Byzantine and late Latin adaptation of 'Slav' as Sklabos, Scla:vus; in early Latin comedies Da:vus 'Dacian' was a stereotypical name of a Roman slave.
 
Piotr
 
 
 
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Subject: [tied] Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?

A cognate of the word 'Arya' is present in Finnish, according to Dr. Asko Parpola, and means a 'slave' in that language. Aparently, some 'Aryans' landed up in Scandinavia and became underdogs of the society.