Re: [tied] Slavic voda

An about Greek en-ydra and Latin lutra / ontra ? How could these forms be
explained? What is the preffix en- ? And l-? Why lutra and ontra but not
*udra ?

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From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: [tied] Slavic voda


> Slavic <voda> "water" is the most notorious exception to Winter's Law
> (the law that causes vowels to be lengthened in Balto-Slavic before
> PIE *d, *g(W), but not before *bh, *dh, *g(W)h).
>
> As I stated earlier, I believe the word "water" had two related but
> separate paradigms in PIE: the normal form (**wá:d-an-) which
> developed into NA *wódr, G *wédnos, AbI *wédnot, LD *wédni, and the
> collective form (*wad-á:n-), which developed into NA *udó:r, G *udéns,
> *IAb *udént, DL *udén(i). Now in Slavic, the first set should have
> further developed to *vódU(r) or *vódI(r) [I suppose], Obl. *vén- (?),
> without Winter's Law, which is blocked by an immediately following
> resonant (-r, -n-).
>
> The second set would have normally developed to *vydá, *vydé~ (> *vydy
> by simple analogy, this not being a soft stem), with Winter's Law
> transforminmg *(v)Ud- to *(v)yd-. Cf. Latv. u:dens "water".
>
> To get at the attested a:-stem <voda>, <vody>, we only have to assume
> that *<vódU(r)> and *<vydá> interacted, producing the "mixed" form
> <vodá>.
>
> Forms derived from "water": Slav. ve^dro "bucket", because of Lith.
> vé:daras, Latv. ve:ders probably from *ve:der- < *wed-er-o-. Russ.
> vëdro "nice weather" < *vedr-U < *wed-r-o-. I have trouble explaining
> the length in Slav. <vydra> "otter" (Lith. ú:dra, Latv. u:drs). Why
> didn't -r- block Winter's law here?
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