--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> What about Sardinian or Dalmatian, which have the same change
without a Dacian substrate? It's really commonplace -- we have it in
Greek and sporadically in Germanic. The available evidence shows that
Dacian was a Satem language in which the *kW and *k series fell
together.
>
Thanks, Piotr! The phonological ease of the transformation kW>p,
gW>b is one of the reasons that I asked about any independent evidence
for a "P-type" character of Dacian. Now I must ask another amateur
question: what is the evidence for Satem character of Dacian? I know
really little about attestation and onynomics of the old Balkan IE
languages. Furthermore, even if Dacian WAS Satem, does it preclude
a substrate effect? Dacian is considered by many (including, I
believe, yourself) to be the likely progenitor of modern Albanian.
Although Albanian is considered to be Satem it is also often argued
to preserve distinct phonemes for the three original IE stop series,
the velars, the palatovelars, and the labiovelars (k,k',kW). Of
course, I understand this is itself a debated point.
Best - Gregory