Re: [tied] Re: Lambdacism

From: Alexander Stolbov
Message: 12012
Date: 2002-01-08

I wonder when the Ossetic-type lambdacism innovation appeared.
I guess it is not easy to point a date, but I hope it is possibly to say on which branch of the "Iranian linguistic tree" this event took place.
 
I saw the following classification of the Iranian languages:
 
WEST IRANIAN:
North branch: Median, Parthian, Kurdish, Baluchi, Talysh, Mazanderani etc.
South branch: Persian, Khazari, Kumzari etc.
 
EAST IRANIAN:
North branch: Scythian, Alanian, Sogdian, Khwaresmian, Ossetic, Yaghnobi
South branch: Bactrian, Sacian, Pashto, Pamir languages
 
The Avestan language is said to be somewhere between the branches of East Iranian
 
(I'm afraid that not only genetic, but also geographic considerations could be in the basis in this classification)
 
If the scheme is principally right, where should we find the Ossetic-type lambdacism appeared?
 
Alexander
 
 
 
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Lambdacism

 
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Subject: [tied] Re: Lambdacism

> You mentioned "Ossetic-type lambdacism". Are there other types of lambdacism in Iranian languages?
 
Quite a few, I mentioned Yaghnobi (intervocalic) *-þr- > *-l- and Pashto *d > l on this list not long ago. The later gives e.g. calor 'four' < c^ador < *c^aþwar- or lu:r 'daughter' < *duxtr-. The River Helmand was once *hedumand- < Iranian *haitu-mant- (= Skt. setu-mant-) 'having natural dams'.
 
> And could you please formulate the conditions of IE *l > Indo-Ir. *r .
 
This is easy: *l > *r, full stop.
 
Piotr