Re: What is PIE for numeral 'nine'?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 11784
Date: 2001-12-12

--- In cybalist@..., "kalyan97" <kalyan97@...> wrote:
> I shall be grateful for info. on PIE numeral 'nine'. Was there
> a l- in any of the European language words?
>
> The numeral 'nine' in Munda is 'lo'. The l- > n- transforms
between
> Munda and Bengali are attested (e.g. loe ? noe). The Khotanese form
> for nine is: nyoh.
>
> It is hypothesized that the form for 'nine' in Para-Munda is loh-
> (rebus homonym: loha, metal, ore). The phonetic changes may be
stated
> as follows: loh-, noh-, noe, no, nava establishing the substrate
link
> between early Indo-Aryan and Munda and between Munda and Dravidian
> languages. [cf. on-patu for nine in Tamil which may be a metath.
> reflex of 'no' nine].
>
> The count of nine is emphatic in a few pictorial motifs. See
> http://www.hindunet.org/munda/mundanine.htm

I suppose that means that if we accept "nine" as a loan from Para-
Munda to Indo-Aryan, that the numbers were loaned the "wrong way"
(east to west)? And then we would have to accept an "out-of-India"
hypothesis for IE, at least for the number nine.

Torsten