Re: [tied] Re: "Odin of Asgard"

>--- In cybalist@..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *****GK: The Getae (not the Goths who at that time
>> were still in "Scandzia") ravaged what later (not in
>> Caesar's time) became a part of "Germania". At any
>> rate from the time of the arrival of the
>> Marcomanni.*****
>>
>> Just a small comment. The Goths are considered having entered the
>Vistula
>> area about the 3rd century B.C.
>
>So they went directly from Scandinavia to Vistula to the Black Sea
>and attacked Rome from there together with Gepids and Heruli on only
>a few decades. That is good work I must say.
>Then what about e g Tacitus then and Ptolemaios? Both wrong, or are
>not dealing with any goths on the continent? Fine with me in that
>case! Jordanes?
>

Anders,
You are missing a few hundred years. The Goths only started their great
"trek" to the Black Sea in the first century A.D.

Try to get the book I mention below. There are good diagram over how they
moved.
The book should be available at the library.
Denna titel finns vid följande bibliotek:

A Vitterhetsakademiens bibliotek
Placering: 95/ 1216 /Schätze

G Göteborgs universitetsbibliotek, Centralbiblioteket
Placering: ÖM J 95/95

U Uppsala universitetsbibliotek
Placering: 1996 J 110

>
>
>I presume you have read Kokowski Leiber
>> "Schätze-der-Ostgoten".
>
>No
>Also the Swedish archaeologists like professor
>> Oscar Almgren says there was a exodus from Gotland between 300-150
>B.C.
>> However they didn't know to where.
>Interesting! When was the exodus *to* Gotland?
>
>> Polish archeologists, foremosst Wolagiewicz, have carefully studied
>the
>> Gotic gravefields in the Weichsel area and found that the oldest
>> gravefields to back to the second century B.C.
>>
>>
>> In the Roman geographer Strabons writings it says that the Goths
>belonged
>> to an association of Germanic tribes that was under the Marcomanner
>Marbod
>
>Is Your position that Gotland in Strabos time was under the
>Marcomanner Marbod? Then maybe the Marcomanner took part in the
>exodus *to* Gotland. Interesting indeed!
>Anders
>

No. But the Goths in the Vistula area seems to have some deal with the
Markomanner.
However in Gotland we find trading goods of Roman origin from that time.
Tore