Re: [tied] Re: Scythian tribal names: Paralatai

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 11632
Date: 2001-12-02

The etymologies are correct, as far as I can see, and examples could be multiplied. There is no lambdacism in Khotanese or even in (the various dialects of) Sogdian, which seems to be more closely related to Alanic/Ossetic. Yaghnobi, which derives from a Sogdian-like ancestor, has its own sources of /l/, e.g. from intervocalic *-þr- (> Ossetic -rt-; it's amazing, incidentally, how many different reflexes of PIE *-tr- one can find in Iranian). The problem with "Scythian" is that it fails as a linguistic designation. There must have been numerous Iranian dialects spoken in the North Pontic region and Central Asia. Even less general terms like "the Saka" stand for linguistically diverse groups (Khotanese and Tumshuqese, to say nothing of the unrecorded "Saka" languages). Lambdacism in *-ri-/*-ry- combinations is supposed to be "Sarmatian", but may well have been an areal feature of the western NE Iranian languages, affecting also that of the "Royal Scythians".
 
Piotr
 
 
 
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Subject: [tied] Re: Scythian tribal names: Paralatai

Are the change of -ry- > -l-, and the dissimilation of the first of two /r/'s in the same word common to all of N.E. Iranian or only Sarmatian?  The following Khotanese etymologies from 'Saka Grammatical Studies' by R. E. Emmerick seem to show that Proto-Ir. *-ary- > -i:r- in Scythian:

gvi:r- 'to talk' < *vi-var-ya-, cf. IE 6. *uer- 'feierlich sagen'.

pi:r- 'to be filled' < *par-ya-, cf. O.Ind. pu:ryáte 'is filled'.

bi:r- 'to throw, sow' < *bar-ya-, cf. Lith. beriù, Lett. ber´u 'strew'.

hambi:r- 'to be filled' < *ham-parya-

I don't know if these etymologies have been overturned or were only
tentative, but anyway there they are.