Re: [tied] Re: Celtic and pre-Celtic in Britannia

Could this "Alteuropaisch" substratum be the IE Ligurian?

Since we are talking about Lusitanian toponyms, what's the etymology of
Lisboa (Lisbon) < Olisipona ? The same as -bona in Vindobona? What's the
explanation of this -bona ?
Folk-etymology related Olisipona from Ulysses.

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From: Dr. Antonio Sciarretta <sciarretta@...>
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Celtic and pre-Celtic in Britannia


> I read various works of F. Villar (one is Indoeuropeos y no indoeuropeos
en
> la Hispania Prerromana, Salamanca, 2000) that used this same criterion to
> distinguish
> Celtiberian toponyms (/o/ language, 0 < *p), from "Lusitanian" toponyms
> (/o/ language, p < *p), from "Alteuropaeisch" toponyms (/a/ language, p <
> *p) in ancient (southern) Hispania. Like some other criteria based on
> purely phonetic features (cfr. the V. Georgiev "invention" of Pelasgian,
> already discussed in this list), it has something speculative and
> simplistic, but can be rather effective (of course if well applied, and I
> don't want to say I'm applying it well).
> Also J. Udolph (Die Stellung der Gewässernamen Polens innerhalb der
> alteuropäischen Hydronymie, Heidelberg, 1990) did the same to explain some
> hydronyms of Poland.