Re: Colchians, circumcision and hypergamy (was Vanir)

Torsten wrote

> Jordanes says that this happened some generations before the time of
> "Vesosis", that is, Sesostris (the corrupt forms Sesosis, Vesosis
> appear also in Justin's history); no matter which Sesostris is
> meant the exodus must have taken place before the middle of the
> second millennium B.C

There has been confusion between the Sesostris of Herodotus and at
least two Egyptian monarchs Rameses II (called Sese) and Senusret III
(1878-1841 BCE according to Clayton). Both saw themselves as great
conquering monarchs. Despite huge successes against the Nubians in
ye 12 & 15 of his 35 year long reign, Senusret did not campaign
widely in Asia - this as I mentioned before is vague memories of
Rameses II's own campaigns at Kadesh.

> Could you provide examples of that, other than Egyptians and
> Colchidians (and Sea Peoples, then! *D-n-n among them? Hm.), within
> Herodotus' horizon? That would be nice.

I have been hunting them for some time. I feel that by the time of
Herodotus, circumcision (as a result of invasions by non-circumcising
Phrygians and Armenians) was confined to a few people were left
usually in out of the way, remote locations. The Anabasis of
Xenophon is a good place to start searching.

Regards

John