Re: [tied] How to prepare **udon soup (was: PIE rhotacism)

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 11353
Date: 2001-11-21

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:40:27, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>No, dearie. Individual examples of this and that can be found
>everywhere. I was refering to the COMBINED changes you
>propose which remain overly complex and inefficient. You see,
>what you're saying is that a long vowel simultanously develops
>into three very different short vowels.

And where did I say that?

If you want an overview, here it is:

str. unstr. svar.
**a é 0 0
**a: ó e o
**i (y)é (y) (y)
**i: éi i oi
**u (w)é (w) (w)
**u: éu u ou


In detail:


Original system:

*i *u *i: *u:
*a *a:

I. Loss of high vowels: *i/*u > *a (with palatalization and
labialization of surrounding consonants), *i: > *ai, *u: > *au,
lengthening of *a to *a: by various vrddhi processes, giving:

*a *a: *ai *au *a:i *a:u

II. Zero grade: unstressed vowels are shortened (*a: > *a, *a > zero),
except in svarita position. Development of syllabic resonants.

*a *a: *ai *au *a:i *a:u *i *u *m. *n. *l. *r. *&1 *&2 *&3

III. Vowel colouring: a > æ > e, a: > A: > o: > o, h2a > a, h3a > o
etc. Various lengthenings (e.g. -VCs > -V:Cs), resulting in the
classical PIE system:

*i *u *i: *u: *ei *e:i *oi *o:i *m. *m.: *l. *l.:
*e *o *e: *o: *eu *e:u *ou *o:u *n. *n.: *r. *r.:
*a *a: *ai *a:u *au *a:u


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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