Re: [tied] Rydberg on the Ribhus of the Rigveda

I can't seen any link between *Bhagos and the Rbhus (*Xlbhu-). I believe in
a dichotomy between Aesir-like and Vanir-like deities, but I think both
*Dyeus and *PerkWunos would be Aesir. I see a possible link for Vanir in the
Indian deities born from churning of milk sea: the Moon, Soma, Rambha,
S^ri:, apsarasas.

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Rydberg on the Ribhus of the Rigveda


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> Joao:
> >*Bhagos is the blind god of fortune (Bhaga, Baga, Bogu). I dont
> >see any relation to the Rbhus.
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> Okay, that's it, yes... Well, I'm looking at this link:
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> http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/spirit/chap2.htm
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> Interestingly, it mentions a 2-way contrast in Iranian myth
> between the Baga ("good") and the Dauva ("evil"). Something
> evocative of the Aesir and Vanir opposition. Anyways, hasn't it
> already just been mentioned that there was a bit of competition
> between the craftsmen elf-folk and the gods? Essential, a dual
> opposition between two types of mythical beings? Also, *Bhag^os
> appears to associated with gift-making or gift-offering... kinda
> like the craftsmen, nej? And we know that the name "Dauva" is
> based on the IE word *deiwos "god". So, the Baga/Dauva contrast
> is between "gods" and "?".
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> So, how would this association between these craftsmen and
> *Bhag^os be misguided? My thinking is that there must certainly
> have been some dualistic opposition between one group of mythical
> beings and another in IE mythos. Probably between those headed by
> *Dye:us (the *Xansu), versus those headed by *PerkWnos (the *Wenu).
> However, this concept of the mortal craftsmen trinity might have
> later been added to the original world-view, with elements of the
> stories of the Herculean *Manus fighting to become immortal again,
> combined with the cyclical, season-related war of the *Xansu and
> *Wenu deities portrayed in the Norse Ragnarok.
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> Now do you see?
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> - love gLeN
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