Re: [tied] Cul- and pigs [was Re: Boiotia < *bhoi- ?]

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 11267
Date: 2001-11-19

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From: Christopher Gwinn <sonno3@...>
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:15 AM
Subject: [tied] Cul- and pigs [was Re: Boiotia < *bhoi- ?]


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> > > Yeah, and that is a folk-etymology. Eric Hamp has demonstrated
> that
> > > Cul- actually comes from an Old Western Indo European root
> (perhaps
> > > ultimately a pre-IE substrate root) meaning "pig" (and
> not "sty").
> > >
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> > examples?
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> I meant to actually write "Hamp has demonstrated that Cul- _might_
> actually come from a root meaning "pig" (there are some doubts
> still).
>
> Hamp, "The Pig in Ancient Europe", in The Proto Indo Europeans: The
> Archaeology of a Linguistic Problem (1986).
>
> He would analyze Cul- as *keulV- and equate it with Lithuanian
> kiaule "pig" (< *keulia) and Lith. kuilys "boar".

I have these names in my database, but I found another explanation for them:
Lit kjaule, (*kyeul-) Lat cuka< *kyuka Cz cune (<*ky(e)u-n) Greek sys <
*kyu:s

Lit Greek ptelas (*kWyela-), Sansk ki:ri (kWi:l-) Lit kuilys (<*kuwiliyo-?)
< *kWyel- ?


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