Re: [tied] Vanir

From: george knysh
Message: 11238
Date: 2001-11-19

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> As I re-read your posting it suddenlu dawned on me
> that what they certainly refer to is not the lake
> itself but Karelian Aunus (Aunuks-), extending to
> the north of it. It fits like a glove, if it's
> possible at all that Ermanaric's influence reached
> Karelia.
>
> Piotr

***GK: I think you've got it Piotr. The issue of
whether Hermanaric's power actually reached that far
north is not crucial. Jordanes clearly overdid it when
he wrote:"omnibusque Scythiae et Germaniae nationibus
ac si propriis lavoribus imperavit." But the Gothic
source knew the area and mentioned it.*****



>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sergejus Tarasovas
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Vanir
>
>
> A comment to that passage in my edition of Getica
> states "in Aunxis
> svidetel'stvujet o prebyvanii c^udi na territorii
> mez^du Ladoz^skim i
> Onez^skim ozerami, na c^to ukazal F. A. Braun
> ("Razyskanija v oblasti
> goto-slav'anskix otnos^enij, str. 255, so ssylkoj na
> Ju. Koskinena,
> K. Mu"llengoffa, V. Tomas^ka i dr. ")"
>
> I must admit I don't get the point. Lake Ladoga is
> called Ladoga in
> ORuss, Aldeigjuborg in ONorse (if my source is
> correct), and I'm
> aware of two Finnic etymologies (<*Aaldokas 'choppy,
> rising in waves'
> or *Alodejoki < alode 'lowland'). Lake Onega is
> A"a"nisja"rvi in
> Finnish (< a"a"ninen 'sonorous, resounding' ?).
> Rather far from
> *Aunx-.
>


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