Re: [tied] Re: Kumarbi, Teshub and their friends

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:37 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Kumarbi, Teshub and their friends


> Forgive my ramble, I find this myth interesting.
>
> Hmm...In one version, Ullikummish was born from a rock that Kumarbi
> impregnated. In one version Typhon was born from Gaia and Kronos, as
> you said, or in another version, from the earth alone
>
> These instances both remind me of the birth of Erichthonius, who was
> conceived when Hephaestus attempted to seduce Athena, but his seed
> fell to the earth, and Erichthonius was born(Doesn't Erichthonius
> mean born from the earth, or something like that?).
> Erichthonius, like Typhon, was depicted having the legs of a serpent
> and a body of a man.
> Erichthonius was, in one story, what was in Pandora's box, and later
> became king of Athens. He(or Cecrops, a very similar snake-footed
> character) judged in favor of Athena over Poseidon in the contest to
> determine who would be patron deity of Athens. Here again we have
> Athena.

Yes, the myths are very similar.


> It also recalls the first part of a version of the myth of Cybele and
> Attis, where Jupiter impregnates a rock that is Cybele, and the
> monstrous hermaphrodite Acdestus is born(Who is castrated)
>
> So, we have rock or an earth goddesss represented by rock impregnated
> in an unusual manner by a male divinity(Kumarbis, Kronos, Hephaestus,
> Jupiter), giving birth to a bizarre earthborn creation that is
> usually destroyed.
> I think it is interesting that we get a variety of male gods playing
> a similar role in these myths-what is Hephaestus doing in there?
> I would appreciate any thoughts on the matter.
> Cort Williams

Another sure relation. The myth of Zeus-Agdistis seems to be cognate of
Kumarbi-Ullikummi. And I also include the legend of Aloidai, two giants who
climbed Olympos, and perhaps the Nordic Mokkurkalf, a giant of clay.