Re: Scythian Names as Turkish

--- In cybalist@..., lsroute66@... wrote:

> Just add some additional fun to the topic, I'm passing along
> something
> I was sent awhile ago. It's from on the web somewhere and maybe

it's

> still there. Don't have the URL and I don't know who wrote it or
> when.
> -----------------
> "Coming back to the ancestral names, in the following analyses we
> have used generally the root words without the Greek pronominal,
> plural or other suffixes which are put in parentheses:
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Targit(aus), first king of Scythia, can be analyzed as: [(1)
> Tr. Turgut, still a Turkish personal name; or (2) Tr. TŸrk-Ÿt
> (3)"the Turks"; or even (3) TŸrk-Ÿt "the strong ones, the
> powers"
> with M. Tr. tŸrk "power, strength; mature; ripe" (DLT I, 353;
> UYG), and-Ÿt, O-M Turkish plural suffix].Ê
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Leipoxa(is) (son of Targitaus the first Scythian king)
> [Leipoxa(is) or Lei-poksa < Tr. Ulu-bakhsüi "great teacher; great
> magus (Magian)," with ulu "great," and pakhsüi/bakhsüi "priest,
> periest-scholar, teacher; Magian"].
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Arpoxa(is) (son of Targitaus): [Arpoxa or Ar-poksa < Tr.
> Er-bakhsüi "hero(ic) teacher; hero(ic) Magian," from Tr. er "man,
> hero" and bakhsüi "priest, periest-scholar, teacher; Magian"].
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Colax(ais) (youngest son of Targitaus), should probably be
> written as Colakh who apparently gave his name to Colchians.
> Theophilactos, 7th-century Byzantine historian, wrote it in Greek

as

> Xolx, apparently referring to the Colchians (ToOD 90), which must

be

> read as Kholkh. It may have been written originally with double l,

as

> in Greek epic poetry, in the form of kollakh, thus, with phonetic
> change of the first l for r (LiScGEL 403): [(1) Kollakh < Korlakh <
> Tr. Karluk "belonging to the snow." The same word Kollakh, with
> possible phonetic changes of l = n and m = n in Doric dialect
> (LiScGEL 403, 421), may also indicate the name of Turkish Kalmak.
> Thus, (2) Kollakh < Kolnakh < Kolmakh < Turkish Kalmak or Kalmuk
> "remnant;those who remain behind." Both names represent well-known
> Turkish tribes appearing in many Turkish legends and histories
> (4)].Ê
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Auchat(ae), the Scythic race born from Leipoxais [(1) < Tr.
> Ak-at "white horse"; or (2) < Tr. Ok-at "arrow(-like) horse; fast
> horse," where ak "white," ok "arrow," at "horse"].
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Catiar(i), nation born from Arpoxais, [< Tr. Ka-ar (5)
> or (A)Ka-ir/Aga-ir "tree-man," which is iden-tical to
> another name, Agathyr(s), also given by Herodotus. Phonetic
> differ-ences between the words Catiar and Agathyr (which is

analyzed

> further down) is probably due to the fact that Herodotus obtained
> these stories from alternate sources].
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Paralat (clan-name of the Royal Scythi-ans): [(1) < bur-ul-at
> or Oghur Tr. Pur-ogùul-õt (O-M Tr. Buz-ogùul-õt) "sons of
> ice," with Oghur Tr. pur > Chuv. põr/pur (Pa‚SüS 100) < Tr.
> buz "ice"; or less likely, (2) < Barul-at < Oghur Tr.
> Bor-ogùul-õt (6)
> (< O-M Tr. Boz-ogùul-õt) "grey sons" or "the sons of Boz
> (Tribe)." It
> is interesting to note that the name Paralat of the Royal Scythians
> and that of their ancestor Colax are synonyms, one meaning "sons of
> the ice," the other, "belonging to the snow"].
>
> ÊÊÊÊ Scolot(i) (name the Scythians give them-selves; name of a
> legendary Scythian king): [< Skil-it > M. Tr. ‚ikil-it
> "‚igils," where ‚igil is a well-known Turkish group of
> Central Asia, mentioned by Mahmud Kashgari. The Assyrian name for
> Scythian(s), Ishkuz/Ashkuz (GooBA, p. 240; and FryHP 65, 95), seems
> to be Turkish also: < Ish-Guz < Tr. I-Guz, I Oguz "inner
> Oghuz"]."
>
> Etc.Ê

Ah, you want confusion? Absalon, archbishop of the Nordic countries,
employer to Saxo, one of the men behind the conquest of Arkona, was
of the old and powerful Trugot family. The name is unetymologizable
in Danish.

Torsten