Re: [tied] Re: Something for Sergejus

--- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...>
wrote:

>
> Some scholars (Duridanov, Maz^iulis and Trubachev
> being among them)
> insist on relations between Thracian and Baltic,
> Trubachev even
> states that the origins of the Balts should be
> looked for somewhere
> in Eastern Balkans and/or Western Anatolia
> (rejecting the Balto-
> Slavic stage and pointing to the upper Danube region
> as a possible
> Slavic Urheimat). As for the Thracian (in Greek
> rendering) <I'stros>
> 'the Lower Danube' < (?) *is-ro- 'running in some
> specific way' <
> *eis-:is- 'move (quickly) etc', cf. Old Prussian (in
> German
> rendering) <Inster>, <Instrud>, <Instrut> < OPruss
> *Instra:
> 'hydronym' < Baltic *ins-ra- 'flowing swiftly' <
> *ins- 'be moved
> quickly' + *-ra- < (through infixation) *eis-:is-
> and Lith. E'isra
> 'hydronym' < *eis-ra- < *eis-.

*****GK: I gather that in Lithuanian -str- is a rarity
(-sr- is usual), while in Latvian and Old Prussian it
isn't. It is also found in Germanic and in recorded
Thracian. In West Ukraine there is a very large number
of hydronyms and toponyms with the element -str-,which
clearly go back to pre-Slavic times. So if we're
talking "BaltoSlavic" or "Baltic" (but then what of
Thracian and Germanic?) this leaves Lithuanian out. If
its -sr- is the archaism then -str- is some later
common (minus Lith.?)innovation? There is also a river
ISTR in the Moscow region, which goes back to
Galindian times there I guess.******

>
>

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