Re: [tied] Uralic and PIE/Danube

--- lsroute66@... wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...>
> wrote:
>
> <<Of course B/D was later eaten up by Trypilia, but
> D/D and Ser. Stih
> certainly weren't.>>
>
>SL: Rather, B/D became Trypilia/Tripolye -- a major
> contributor to it.

*****GK: Here I must agree with those who say that the
distinct cultural forms of Trypilia were imported from
the south and did not evolve "autochtonically". B/D
was indeed absorbed (assimilated).*****

> No eating involved. And both Dniester-Donetz and
> Sredni Stog would
> both enter a phase where a good deal of their
> mesolithic character
> were replaced with either direct or modified
> adaptions of neolithic
> culture. Mesolithic D-D and SS disappeared.

*****GK: But many of their "mesolithic" cultural roots
were retained. Especially in the area of "ideology"
judging by the major differences which prevailed in
the burial rites of Trypilia and S/S D/D.*****

>
> <<And the earliest "corded ware" ornament on
> extremely early sharp
> ended pots has been found in D/D.>>
>
> Which says at best that hemp, hide or gut cords may
> have been used to
> lift or carry those pots. A noteworthy innovation,
> but hardly a
> cultural revolution.

*****GK: The point is that "corded ware" ORNAMENT
developed from these very early D/D instances, taken
over by S/S and later "busting out all over" as we
know. Another major difference with respect to the
unique "painted pottery" of Trypilia. So whatever
influence the Trypilian farmers exercised on their
neighbours, the latter not only maintained their grip
on their territory, but also, if I could so put it,on
their culture. Not only were they not assimilated.
They later became assimilators. "Neolithicization"
notwithstanding. And this raises the very interesting
issue of just who it is that the proto-Uralians
borrowed some of their most ancient IE terms
from.*****

Regards, Steve

>
>

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