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lsroute66@... wrote:
Once again,
> the origins of the initial northern use of ceramics
> about 5000BC
> cannot really be assigned to any point but the
> Danube
*****GK: I take it that you are speaking in general
terms only, i.e. that the "impulse" which eventually
reached the north originated on "the Danube". In real
terms though, what probably happened, if we are to
believe the archaeological evidence is that the first
"hunters/gatherers" to be influenced by LBK east of
the Carpathians and on contemporary Ukrainian
territory were the people of the Bog-Dnister culture.
These coexisted for a time with the Linear B people in
the area. They also coexisted with the early phase of
the Dnipro-Donetz culture. As far as the adaptation of
ceramic use in the north is concerned, the evidence
seems to be that the B/D people developed a "style"
which was taken over (and passed on) by their
immediate neighbours. The similarity of ceramic forms
in Bug/Dnister, Dnipro/Donetz, Surs'k (which later
developed into Serednyj Stih) and Pit-Comb is
striking. One major difference between these complexes
and Linear B is that the early "pots" to the east and
north were sharp-ended rather than flat or relatively
so(as in linear B). This means, the archaeologists
conclude, that the northeastern populations had no
concept of "table". So here, as in many other areas of
"impulses" from the south the cultural adaptations
were selective. That's why, I think, these lexical
borrowings by U would be interesting. They need not
indicate anything except small linguistic innovations
(obvious I guess since U did not change into IE). And
what holds for Pit-comb would probably have held re
B/D etc.. Of course B/D was later eaten up by
Trypilia, but D/D and Ser. Stih certainly weren't. And
the earliest "corded ware" ornament on extremely early
sharp ended pots has been found in D/D.*****
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