Re: [tied] Scythian Names as Turkish

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Subject: [tied] Scythian Names as Turkish

Just add some additional fun to the topic, I'm passing along
something
I was sent awhile ago.  It's from on the web somewhere and maybe it's
still there.  Don't have the URL and I don't know who wrote it or
when.
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"Coming back to the ancestral names, in the following analyses we
have used generally the root words without the Greek pronominal,
plural or other suffixes which are put in parentheses:

ÊÊÊÊ Targit(aus), first king of Scythia, can be analyzed as: [(1)
Tr. Turgut, still a Turkish personal name; or (2) Tr. TŸrk-Ÿt
(3)"the Turks"; or even (3) TŸrk-Ÿt "the strong ones, the
powers"
with M. Tr. tŸrk "power, strength; mature; ripe" (DLT I, 353;
UYG), and-Ÿt, O-M Turkish plural suffix].Ê

ÊÊÊÊ Leipoxa(is) (son of Targitaus the first Scythian king)
[Leipoxa(is) or Lei-poksa < Tr. Ulu-bakhsüi "great teacher; great
magus (Magian)," with ulu "great," and pakhsüi/bakhsüi "priest,
periest-scholar, teacher; Magian"].

ÊÊÊÊ Arpoxa(is) (son of Targitaus): [Arpoxa or Ar-poksa < Tr.
Er-bakhsüi "hero(ic) teacher; hero(ic) Magian," from Tr. er "man,
hero" and bakhsüi "priest, periest-scholar, teacher; Magian"].

ÊÊÊÊ Colax(ais) (youngest son of Targitaus), should probably be
written as Colakh who apparently gave his name to Colchians.
Theophilactos, 7th-century Byzantine historian, wrote it in Greek as
Xolx, apparently referring to the Colchians (ToOD 90), which must be
read as Kholkh. It may have been written originally with double l, as
in Greek epic poetry, in the form of kollakh, thus, with phonetic
change of the first l for r (LiScGEL 403): [(1) Kollakh < Korlakh <
Tr. Karluk "belonging to the snow." The same word Kollakh, with
possible phonetic changes of l = n and m = n in Doric dialect
(LiScGEL 403, 421), may also indicate the name of Turkish Kalmak.
Thus, (2) Kollakh < Kolnakh < Kolmakh < Turkish Kalmak or Kalmuk
"remnant;those who remain behind." Both names represent well-known
Turkish tribes appearing in many Turkish legends and histories
(4)].Ê

ÊÊÊÊ Auchat(ae), the Scythic race born from Leipoxais [(1) < Tr.
Ak-at "white horse"; or (2) < Tr. Ok-at "arrow(-like) horse; fast
horse," where ak "white," ok "arrow," at "horse"].

ÊÊÊÊ Catiar(i), nation born from Arpoxais, [< Tr. Ka-ar (5)
or (A)Ka-ir/Aga-ir "tree-man," which is iden-tical to
another name, Agathyr(s), also given by Herodotus. Phonetic
differ-ences between the words Catiar and Agathyr (which is analyzed
further down) is probably due to the fact that Herodotus obtained
these stories from alternate sources].

ÊÊÊÊ Paralat (clan-name of the Royal Scythi-ans): [(1) < bur-ul-at
or Oghur Tr. Pur-ogùul-õt (O-M Tr. Buz-ogùul-õt) "sons of
ice," with Oghur Tr. pur > Chuv. põr/pur (Pa‚SüS 100) < Tr.
buz "ice"; or less likely, (2) < Barul-at < Oghur Tr.
Bor-ogùul-õt (6)
(< O-M Tr. Boz-ogùul-õt) "grey sons" or "the sons of Boz
(Tribe)." It
is interesting to note that the name Paralat of the Royal Scythians
and that of their ancestor Colax are synonyms, one meaning "sons of
the ice," the other, "belonging to the snow"].

ÊÊÊÊ Scolot(i) (name the Scythians give them-selves; name of a
legendary Scythian king): [< Skil-it > M. Tr. ‚ikil-it
"‚igils," where ‚igil is a well-known Turkish group of
Central Asia, mentioned by Mahmud Kashgari. The Assyrian name for
Scythian(s), Ishkuz/Ashkuz (GooBA, p. 240; and FryHP 65, 95), seems
to be Turkish also: < Ish-Guz < Tr. I-Guz, I Oguz "inner
Oghuz"]."

Etc.Ê