On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:10:42, "Glen Gordon" <
glengordon01@...>
wrote:
>>>2. *yekwr.t > yákr.t "liver"
>
>Since *-t occurs NOWHERE except in Sanskrit (not even Hittite
>or Tocharian!),
Greek and Armenian isn't NOWHERE.
>>>3. G. *ph2tr.s > pitúr "father's"
>>> 3pl.pret. *-r. + s > -úr
>
>The IE genitive is *pxterós.
But the Skt. form comes from *ph2tr.s (as I said, Skt. -r.s is
secondary).
>>>4. *h1esh2r.gW > ásr.k "blood"
>
>No, it's *?esxr, without any *gW. In fact, aside from ignoring
>all of IE linguistics, you even twist an already twisted theory
>about "sanguis". Burrow mentions it in his old book but he explicitly
>seperates it as /san-g-uis/. He appears to derive /-j-/ from *g^.
>How does *gW become -j-?
In Skt. you mean? We went over this last time around: look at the
paradigm of va:c- (*wokW-).
>What the hell is **-gW supposed to be?????
A voiced labiovelar stop.
>>Let me further add [...]
>
>No, please don't. The -t- in Greek is simply to strengthen the
>*-n- in the oblique.
Now explain the middle ptc. -menos (< *-mh1nos).
>By the way, Greek /lumar/ with *-mr might be worth checking into.
I did, and it isn't. It's just a poetic variant of luma "filthy
water". The only neuters in -n are the hundreds of neuters in
*-m(e)n. It's clear that the Auslaut-rule -n > -r didn't work here.
Nor in the 1pl. pret vb. ending *-men.
The idea that there was only one *-r/*-n- heteroclitic paradigm
requires the following just-so assumptions:
1) Indo-Iranian arbitrarily split up the paradigm into three
sub-paradigns: words with NA sg. in -ar, words in -r.t, words in -r.k
2) Armenian just so happens to add *-t in one of the words ("liver")
where Skt. adds -t.
3) The word where Skt. adds *-gW (-k/-j-) ("blood"), just happens to
have -gu- in Latin.
4) Greek just happens to add *-t to all heteroclitics (and neuters in
-men).
The idea that there were originally several paradigms with *-rC/*-nC-
(incl. C=0) works with only one assumption:
1) Outside I-I (and perhaps Armenian) the paradigm was regularized
after the words in *-r/*-n-, except in Greek, where the model was
*-rt/*-nt-.
Just beacause Hittite and Tocharian are usually more archaic, it
doesn't mean that in this case Latin, Greek, Armenian, Iranian and
Indo-Aryan cannot show forms wich are more archaic.