Re: [tied] Re: Dating PIE

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 10408
Date: 2001-10-18

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:14:26 -0000, "S.Kalyanaraman"
<kalyan97@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>> People on Cybalist know that I favour a Danubian homeland and a
>link > with the Linear Pottery culture, with ca. 5600 BC as the "root
>date" > (the separation of Anatolian) and something close to 4500 BC
>for the > latest common ancestor of the non-Anatolian branches. 2600-
>2000 BC > would be the formative period of Proto-Indo-Iranian, with
>common > Iranian and Indo-Aryan as distinct languages after the
>latter date. > In brief, here is my (approximate) timeline for the
>history of Indic > (BP = before present):
>>
>> 7600 BP --- PIE
>> 6500 BP --- non-Anatolian IE
>> 5000 BP --- Proto-Satem
>> 4600 BP --- Proto-Indo-Iranian
>> 4000 BP --- Proto-Indo-Aryan
>> 3700-3200 BP --- Rigvedic Indo-Aryan
>> 3200-2500 BP --- late Old Indo-Aryan
>> 2500-900 BP --- Middle Indo-Aryan
>
>For an alternative view on the Homeland and the Chronology problem by
>another linguist, here are Aron Doglopolsky's views.
>
>Those who need the full article in pdf format, please email:
>kalyan97@...
>
>"Mallory's main argument for settling on the 5th millennium as the
>date of PIE is the alleged PIE words for 'wheeled vehicles', 'horse',
>and 'copper' (pp. 158-9, 179-80). [etc....]

Actually, this is not really an _alternative_ view. Piotr and myself
have argued against Mallory's "horse-wheeled vehicle" argument in much
the same way as Dolgopolsky does here, so (speaking for myself)
there's no disagreement there. There's a difference in the further
ramifications (Dolgopolsky, like Renfrew, argues for an Anatolian
homeland, Piotr and me for a Balkan homeland [whether or not Balkanic
PIE itself was derived from an earlier *pre*-PIE spoken in Anatolia]).