--- Piotr Gasiorowski <
gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
>
> I don't have to demonstrate that a proposal is
> impossible. If something is "not impossible" but at
> the same time unverifiable or unreconstructible, it
> cannot be a valid part of the accepted model of PIE.
*****GK: Perhaps you should broaden your concepts of
verification and reconstructibility? But if you can't
do it, I'll take your word for it.******
> If you claim that the PIE horse-call was *kos-kos,
> the burden of the proof is on you.
*****GK: I obviously don't (can't) claim that the
"PIE" horse-call was kos-kos since you have clearly
indicated that the norms of your science either won't
or can't cope with such a possibility. I've given you
what evidence I have. If that doesn't "fit" then so be
it. This won't change my mind that it is highly
plausible that such a call was indeed heard on the
ancient steppes and survived until our times in the
Ukr. lexicon. If it didn't make it to Poland what can
I say? A lot of things didn't make it to Poland (or
conversely from Poland to Ukraine). That doesn't make
them any less real.*****
Why *kos-kos
> rather than *hop-hop, *hei-ja-hou,
> *[whistle-whistle] or *[click-click]?
****GK: Because there is lexical evidence for the
former and none for your inventions. Mind you I don't
deny these other possibilities at all (esp.
[whistle-whistle]. Or "hey you there" when GK talks to
PG (if ever) or vice -versa.****
I do not doubt
> that a whole range of such or similar interjections
> were used by the "real IEs", but it's not something
> we can reconstruct. Surely, [kos'kos'] is not a
> universal horse-call
*****GK: I take it that even in the science of IE
reconstruction there is no claim that everything which
can be posited as part of that putative language
according to your rules was inherited by all
off-shooting languages?******
(no, we don't use it in Poland,
> and as far as I'm aware, such "calls" are many and
> various), and no facts known to me guarantee its
> historical continuity into the distant past. Here I
> rest my case.
*****GK: Good. Let's definitely rest and go on to
something else.*****
>
> Piotr
>
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