Re: Which Manansala? (was [tied] a(i)s-)

--- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > To use my own example, let's imagine you want to find an AN match
> for
> > PIE *dHeg^Hm-/*dHg^Hom- ~ *g^Hom- 'earth'. A cursory glance at

one

> of
> > the pages in an Austronesian comparative dictionary will give you
> > Murut dagana? 'earth (as opposed to sky)' (jeez, it's pure
> > Hittite!!), Balinese gumi 'earth, world', Pazeh daxe 'soil, clay,
> > earth' -- a beginning that promises a nice collection of matches

if

> > you cast your net wide, and note that I haven't yet begun to

relax

> > the semantics of the comparison. Of course the more numerous word
> > lists or the more inclusive dictionary you have, the easier the
> task.
> >
> > You can also, if you prefer, compare Sanskrit bHu:mi- 'earth'

with

> > Indonesian bumi, Madurese bumi, Javanese bumi, Sasak bumi, Sunda
> > bumi, etc. -- all meaning "earth"! Guess what's wrong here. You
> might
> > think it's a naive parody, but some of Manansala's matches are
> really
> > of this kind.
> >
> >
> > Piotr
>
> Thank you for the examples. I can see you are beginning to come
> around.

Actually, what you have shown here is how easy it is to come up with
a match for IE in Austronesian. That does'nt demonstrate what you
purport to show: that it is easy to come up with a match in *any*
language. Austronesian is hardly *any* language here. So, if it's not
too much bother, could I ask you to repeat the demonstration with
Bantu or Algonquin? Preferably with a genetic link too?

> Torsten